"But you manipulated people in order to do it," he says, watching her closely. He isn't angry, he's mostly just sad and a little disappointed because he'd really felt like Nerium was a friend. Maybe an unusual friend, but it isn't like Joel isn't strange himself in a lot of ways.

He wants to trust her and right now he isn't sure he can.

"I know it worked out for me and Spencer, but you took my husband away from me," he says, his voice still soft. "You took memories. You twisted people to be something else without their permission. You understand that, right?"